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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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It's not necessarily a bootlegger. People fear what they don't understand. I've gotten my fair share of insidious comments.
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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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Comments made from an account that was registered the same day...and has no other activity...are always suspect.
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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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Looks like Tiny Pony Vin....er sorry Academy "Vintage" Clothiers is in full swing. All those classic TP crisp jerseys with no tag...

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?LH_Auction= ... 11.c0.m301" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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I really like this thread, i think it's super helpful. Could we maybe get a sticky of a materlist of fake sellers at the top that could be added to once the board definitly weighs in that they're selling bootlegs (wither it be all or some)

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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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Darn good idea. I'll work on that..I'm doing an update to the forum shortly.

In other news...here's a guy who prints on vintage tees...add him to the list:

silvertrainvintage

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d ... world=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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I didnt know that Urban Outfitters was selling t-shirts in the 1970's http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-1970s-MOTT- ... 0372583312 :lol:

A bunch of obvious 90's repro t-shirts with "1970's vintage" in the listing title:

http://cgi.ebay.com/VTG-1970S-BLACK-SAB ... 0556797173" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://cgi.ebay.com/VTG-1970s-DAVID-BOW ... 0373598586" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://cgi.ebay.com/VTG-1970S-BETTE-MID ... 0373178796" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-1970s-GRATE ... 0556775936" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

from the sellers "me" page:
"Why go to the mall and waste your money on a "vintage" knockoff...WHEN YOU CAN JUST BUY THE REAL VINTAGE STUFF FROM US HERE AT SILVERTRAIN VINTAGE....." :roll:

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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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How do these people sleep at night?!

Well, it's not working out so well for them....everything sells for $6. Still cheaper than buying a real repro at the mall.
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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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I contacted that seller
My message: That Mott the Hopple shirt is a reprint-made by Urban Outfitters a few years back.

Seller's Response:you are crazy!! i have never bought clothing at outfitters ever
b4...i bought this from a vintage owner that i know fro years
ago..do you want his name, address and phone number so you
can get yourself hooked up with some cool clothing...get a life i
heard they are on sale at k-mart..


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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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Note the amazing grammar. What is this kid, 12?

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His MySpace page says he's 42.

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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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I heard they are on sale at K-Mart. Best burn ever!! (If you're 8 years old).

There's a vintage shop here in Toronto that sells true vintage but if they ever come across blanks at a mill they just print retro stuff on them. Same thing, simple one color prints. Maybe he's a dummy and doesn't realize it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0368241375" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Plus he's got multiples of the same print on different brands and colors of t-shirts...red flag.

Best part is

And we are working on opening a store in our area as well....ALSO MAKING A WEBSITE IN THE NEAR FUTURE FOR ALL YOUR VINTAGE NEEDS.

Thank god, our prayers have been answered.
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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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When people protest too much, it's definitely a tip off. If someone told me that a shirt was a reprint, I'd say "thanks for the heads up" and change my listing unless I could prove it was vintage.

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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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I'd love to see who he his imaginary supplier is.
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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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If he's printing them himself he's printing them on some shabby thrift store looking blanks from the late 90's.

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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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that's exactly what he's doing. seems akin to spending $1.50 to counterfeit a dollar.

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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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Here's a Rainbowgasoline related blog comment:

http://www.defunkd.com/2009/01/12/can-y ... e-t-shirt/"

Paul Evans Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 11:42 am

I bought one of these Black Flag shirts from rainbowgasoline a while back and noticed another one had been posted up. If this shirt isn’t a phony, I don’t know what is, frankly. The screen printing is raised and too-good-of-new-to-be-true. I have sent the seller a polite and genteel Q informing him of my suspicions, but so far, no answer. I think someone took a pile of period-correct Screen Stars shirts and silkscreened a Pettibon flyer on the suckers. If it were genuine, why wouldn’t the seller be charging out the roof for it, given that he clearly knows what the value of the real deal would potentially be?
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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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Spoofing champion. I haven't seen any of the original Mahagamage tags since the Tiny Pony era. Beware, Mahagamage obviously models their stuff after true vintage so this jersey could be used for evil.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... TQ:US:1123
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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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Before reading this thread, I was looking at some of AC listings and was a bit suspicious. I simply asked if a shirt was original and about the tag, but received no answer. I decided to bid anyway and just take the risk only to find they had blocked me from bidding on their items. Guess they work on a "don't ask don't tell" policy.

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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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Yipppp - they were still running the humpty t-shirts through their account two years after we confirmed they were bogus. They have no shame. Tiny Pony in disguise.
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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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A classic mahagammage knock off not only evidenced by the tag with the name, but by the piss poor screen print job. I think I made better ones in high school graphics class.

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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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http://www.allgearedout.com/?p=3
Check out that post. And then check out the sellers (crazzyfreddy) completed items :evil:

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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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Looks like TinaLove1991 has either moved to a new account or there's a new player peddling their merch.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/kyle1306924/m.h ... 4340.l2562

Tina's inventory is 0 right now, maybe the multiple reports finally resulted in eBay warning them.
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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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Check my post blow this one about an etsy bootlegger.

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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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Dont think thats tinalove. For one the location is set as Philadelphia, (not that that means anything) and second Ive never seen TL reproduce those shirts (all awful quality bootlegs to boot) but also this seller seems to have a couple genuine vintage tees mixed in. Probably someone that doesnt know the difference or care.

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Re: Modern Day Bootleggers?

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Looks like there's a new booter in town - well - he's been at it for a while - goes about it very quietly only offering 1-2 at a time.

Quite obvious at this point he/she's printing on white vintage blanks using a machine - because he/she mainly offers black and white prints.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-80s-CIRCLE- ... 878wt_1378

even the close-ups look horrible.

The rare color one that's available he/she doesn't offer a close-up of the design...wonder why?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/80s-vtg-BLACK-S ... 500wt_1378

grandpas_golf welcome to our list!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/grandpas_golf/m ... ksid=p3686
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