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[nicotine]

hi nicotine from japan.
i have one military t-shirt that i thought it was current product. the other day i found one military t-shirt in one famous japanese vintage magazine that has same brand(?) tag on it. there it is introduced as 40's one. i was surprised to have same brand tag t-shirt. its brand name is American Athletic co according to the magazine.
here are photos of mine. check them please. and have you ever heard of this brand?
i still doubt this is a vintage thing.
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[CRAZYBUBBA]

The links don't work.

I've never seen the American Athletic brand name on any military uniforms, let alone 1940s military, which usually don't have the name of the manufacturer on them.

It's more likely that your jacket is based upon a classic vintage garment.

[jimmyj]

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[CRAZYBUBBA]

oops, I missed the t-shirt bit. I'm interested to hear what the t-shirt gurus have to say.

Why are you doubtful? It's certainly a possibility given that your tag matches that in the magazine, the 101 airborne dates to the WWII, and the material/collar style remind me of the 50s Champion T-shirt that I'd previously posted on the forum.

Are you looking to sell it?

[nicotine]

thanks for reply to me. and for posting images. im not sure how to post directly. hehe.
and the magazine says like that we see this brand tag on military clothing only as far as we know and details havent been revealed so far.

if this one dates back to 40's. im really lucky guy because i bought this by $7.

and sorry. i wont seal it as long as its 40's special vintage as they say.
i just asked you guys for information of it.

im still waiting for other members' response.

[CRAZYBUBBA]

Congrats, $7 is a a steal. Good call re: keeping it. Something this special should be treasured. That's the fantastic thing about vintage, you can sometimes pick up great stuff cheaply if you knwo what to look for. I picked up a 80s Judas Priest jersey in a resale shop for $5 a few months ago!

[nicotine]

haha $5!!! good for you!
yeah i know what to look for. and sometimes i wee around thrift shops here and pick up cheap but great vintage stuff.

oh i once heard that there are tons of band tee fans in the states. if so, you are winner about that.

[jimmyj]

Seems to me like it might be a repro, especially if you found it in Japan. I think two color prints were more 50s?

The lightly printed "36" looks very convincing, almost too convincing - lots of attention to detail like Japanese vintage inspired stuff always is.

I've also never seen the brand before, although it's a little before my time. I'll get Rickykz to weigh in on it...he'll know whats up.

[nicotine]

i dont expect it too much.

yeah two tone color is rare detail. but its not zero, right?
and you know, today its said that there are far more vintage stuff in japan than in the states. in fact i see many vintage military t-shirts including two tone ones in the web and magazines. i did doubt but i got to believe it is something old or vintage one. hehe.

and check them out.
they have really cool military tees from 40's.
http://www.foremost.jp/items/used_tee_s ... Y.INK.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.foremost.jp/items/used_tee_s ... ROCKY.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.foremost.jp/items/used_tee_s ... DICAL.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

you dont seem to have military t-shirt category.
they say vintage(not 80's 70's called regular stuff in japan but 40's or 50's) military t-shirt is one of the most difficult used stuff to collect.

[nicotine]

and this is one which i talked about.
http://www.facebook.com/editalbum.php?a ... 1742033928" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
again from facebook. i should learn to post img

[jimmyj]

here ya go!

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[jimmyj]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/101st_Airborne_Division" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[jimmyj]

RickyKz's response:

Looks like a repro to me. Sleeves are pretty long for a 40's shirt and it's just in too good of condition. Not saying you couldn't find a mint military shirt from the 40's but there's usually some sign of age. Plus I've never seen that label and that stencil is odd...why would they have a label and a stencil for size? I vote repro.

[nicotine]

RickyKz's response:

Looks like a repro to me. Sleeves are pretty long for a 40's shirt and it's just in too good of condition. Not saying you couldn't find a mint military shirt from the 40's but there's usually some sign of age. Plus I've never seen that label and that stencil is odd...why would they have a label and a stencil for size? I vote repro.

thanks jimmy.
i already looked wiki and got to know camp breckinridge is oldest one.

yeah sleeves are very long for this age. i agree with him this point.
i still dunno about stencil. but as to label, what did he mean with "why would they have a label"? if he says vintage(40's 50's) military shirt cant have brand label, that sounds odd. i know some vintage military t-shirt bearing brand tag. say...velva
sheen's vintage military ones do have its brand tag.

[jimmyj]

His point is that why would they have a tag and a stencil? Usually it's one or the other - and he's seen hundreds of old army tees and not familiar with this brand.

You mentioned there is more vintage in Japan? Perhaps the largest percentage of the world's collectors are in Japan but how could there be more American based vintage there? There's still way more undiscovered vintage in North American than there is in Japan and we also have a lot of collectors too. My point is that you finding this shirt in Japan, where vintage is sought after, for $7...in mint condition...kinda indicates a replica.

Do you have used clothing mills in Japan where you can buy it by the pound?

What book did you get this photo from?

Thanks

[CRAZYBUBBA]

For what matters there's more "vintage" in chatachuk market anyone could credibly accumulate through years of purchasing.
I'm sure that if you add the real+ licensed repros that are made exclusively for Japan+fakes they've got more than us.

[jimmyj]

For sure but the majority of it originates from the second hand clothing infrastructure in North America. All the textile mills I used to go to exported to Thailand, Malaysia etc.

[CRAZYBUBBA]

For sure.

[nicotine]

umm...if my states offended you guys, i apologize for it.

and finally i got answer from japanese vintage magazine publisher that released the book.
its repro one surely. have you ever heard of real mckoys? its one of the most famous
repro brands of military stuff. mine is its repro one.

and according to him, this brand(american athletic co) used to exist. and this brand is called the rarest brand among vintage military collectors.

mine is repro one but the brand is authentic. what they confirmed as this brand's military design is the one of the t-shirt introduced in the magazine.

thanks.

[jimmyj]

no one is offended! you didn't say anything offensive.

cool - good to know, thanks!

what is the name of that book? I want to see what else they have in it.

[nicotine]

relieved.

that book has japanese name.
"解T新書”（kai-tee-shin-syo)
i dunno its aveirable in the states. ebay...maybe.