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noglyph
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michael jackson history tour tee all sport tag

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I recently bought this shirt on GRAILED and I’m just wondering if it’s legit or not.
Looking at the catalogs of the time, the printing itself seems to be correct, but the print definition is questionable.
Both hem and sleeves are single stitched.

Experts, please give me your opinions.
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michael jackson history tour tee all sport tag
michael jackson history tour tee all sport tag
michael jackson history tour tee all sport tag
michael jackson history tour tee all sport tag
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Re: michael jackson history tour tee allsports

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Can you please send a closeup of the copyright?
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Re: michael jackson history tour tee allsports

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Thanks for contacting me.
I have added a photo.
The front is crushed, but along with the back, it has triumph international copywrite.

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Re: michael jackson history tour tee allsports

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It seems ok to me. Let's make sure the size checks out, what's the pit to pit in inches?
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Re: michael jackson history tour tee allsports

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Thank you. I felt a little relieved..
The pit to pit will be 21.65".
(I'm Japanese, so I am not used to using inches.
Is this correct? If I convert it to centimeters, it is 55cm)

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Re: michael jackson history tour tee allsports

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Size checks out, here's a similar:

https://www.defunkd.com/product/MR13602 ... s-sz-l-xl/

Tags match perfectly.

I think because you're comparing it to an image in a catalog - those aren't actually images of the print on t-shirts, they probably use the original graphic image and that will look way more vibrant when compared to a print on cotton that's 30 years old.
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Re: michael jackson history tour tee allsports

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Thanks for the link.
It's true. It looks like the body is definitely allsports.

I was checking the catalog but only to make sure the design was correct. (Because there were a few with different back prints.)

As for why I doubted the prints.
Compared to the designs on the other bodies that we have confirmed (photos only), I had the impression that the socks and other parts of the design lacked definition, so I suspected a reprint. Please see below.

Lee body
https://aucview.com/yahoo/e479616852/
Jt's
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuTK6ZsvsX-/?img_index=1

What do you think?
I'm not sure which is chronologically earlier than allsports...

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Re: michael jackson history tour tee allsports

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Ahh yes, definitely agree there are different definition in terms of the diamonds in his socks, from tag to tag (I found Cronies and even a MJ History tag) BUT here's two images from this print on allsport vs lee, I found in eBay archives, one from 2018 one from 2021.

So, the inconsistency in the print is consistent on each tag.

So think it's legit, but would also say the Lee print....is better quality in making his socks pop.
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Re: michael jackson history tour tee allsports

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I see, well, thank you very much.
I understand very well.

It seems to me that the body and print match perfectly, and that Lee's printing is more precise.

So is it still more likely that the allsports one is later than the timing of the Tour Merchandise release? (I have a feeling that the allsport body is chronologically correct...)

Is it common for different bodies to be sold at the same time?
Is this really something that can be called authentic...?
Sorry for all the questions.

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Re: michael jackson history tour tee all sport tag

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Absolutely authentic.

Often, tour t-shirt prints are done at different times by different screen printers in different countries, and the quality can vary. Here's one with an MJ tag. And it looks more like yours than the LEE version. It would be hard to figure out which came first, would take a some time to research.
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Re: michael jackson history tour tee all sport tag

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Wow. This is the first time I have seen this foot tee of mine with the MJ tag.
Where did this image hit from?

PS:This seems to be the official one for sure.

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Re: michael jackson history tour tee all sport tag

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Hello - they are all official, and one could argue that the ones with the MJ tags were not the first ones issued, they could have been and afterthought after the tour was over, sold from a website. Remember, even the MJ tagged one doesn't have the same definition in the print as the Lee one.

etsy.com/listing/1708729508/
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Re: michael jackson history tour tee all sport tag

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Oh really?
I didn't know there was such a pattern...

I learned a great deal.
If you have any more information or interesting knowledge
I would be happy to hear your comments.
Thank you soo much!

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