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Glz01
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LC check on a Wu Tang Raekwon Bay Club

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Hey guys. Hope all is well.
I have another shirt I just got information by another collector that it might be not authentic. Please see attached photos.

Bayclub XXL and measured 27 x 28.7
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Re: LC check on a Wu Tang Raekwon

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At first glance, it's not the common fake Bay Club tag, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a new one.

But I don't think Bay Club tees that are XXL go to 27".

Based on a small sample size, of 3 others I just looked up - none go beyond 25 inches. So that's a red flag.

I compared this tag vs one other BC XXL and I can see some immediate differences. That said, sometimes there are organic differences between two legit tags, so will look for more.

I haven't even looked at the print yet.

Where did you get it?

It's strange, we looked into a t-shirt a few days ago that also had a 27" chest, but it was a Brockum Worldwide China Made that was labeled an M.
Jimmy J

(Please note: Legit checks I do in this forum should not be considered 100% conclusive; I'm simply giving a gut reaction based on the limited information provided.)

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Re: LC check on a Wu Tang Raekwon

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jimmyj wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:06 pm At first glance, it's not the common fake Bay Club tag, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a new one.

But I don't think Bay Club tees that are XXL go to 27".

Based on a small sample size, of 3 others I just looked up - none go beyond 25 inches. So that's a red flag.

I compared this tag vs one other BC XXL and I can see some immediate differences. That said, sometimes there are organic differences between two legit tags, so will look for more.

I haven't even looked at the print yet.

Where did you get it?

It's strange, we looked into a t-shirt a few days ago that also had a 27" chest, but it was a Brockum Worldwide China Made that was labeled an M.
Hi Jimmy,

Here comes the link for the original listing

https://www.ebay.com/itm/296664480879

The seller replied with following (see attached)
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Re: LC check on a Wu Tang Raekwon

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The one in the photo doesn't have a 27" chest, it's 23" - so did you get the same shirt? Measure yours again maybe? It looks to be a match based on the creases in the tag.

I agree that many random people are chiming in on vintage tees without adequately assessing them.
Jimmy J

(Please note: Legit checks I do in this forum should not be considered 100% conclusive; I'm simply giving a gut reaction based on the limited information provided.)

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Re: LC check on a Wu Tang Raekwon

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jimmyj wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 10:27 am The one in the photo doesn't have a 27" chest, it's 23" - so did you get the same shirt? Measure yours again maybe? It looks to be a match based on the creases in the tag.

I agree that many random people are chiming in on vintage tees without adequately assessing them.
Hey!

I’m sure I was sent out the right shirt looking at the tag. I re measured the shirt and it’s 26.5 (see attached photo) metric (67.5cm)

23 inch would be 58cm so it’s definitely not 23 inch.
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Re: LC check on a Wu Tang Raekwon Bay Club

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This is a red flag; maybe the seller accidentally mismeasured or purposely measured to conceal the true measurement (although, they had to have known it would be realized.) But let's not assume the worst, and give them the benefit of the doubt.

It's a clear case of an item not as described, and you should be able to return it based on that. We're talking about a discrepancy of 7 inches on the total chest.

I'm going to dig into the tag shortly.
Jimmy J

(Please note: Legit checks I do in this forum should not be considered 100% conclusive; I'm simply giving a gut reaction based on the limited information provided.)

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Re: LC check on a Wu Tang Raekwon Bay Club

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jimmyj wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 12:48 pm This is a red flag; maybe the seller accidentally mismeasured or purposely measured to conceal the true measurement (although, they had to have known it would be realized.) But let's not assume the worst, and give them the benefit of the doubt.

It's a clear case of an item not as described, and you should be able to return it based on that. We're talking about a discrepancy of 7 inches on the total chest.

I'm going to dig into the tag shortly.
Thank you Jimmy, I compared the tags and it’s definitely the shirt in the listing I was sent (see attached)

I went ahead and re measured the length as well. And it’s 75cm metric = 29.52 inch
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Re: LC check on a Wu Tang Raekwon Bay Club

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So, the length is correct, but the width is off by a lot?
Jimmy J

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Re: LC check on a Wu Tang Raekwon Bay Club

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jimmyj wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 2:06 pm So, the length is correct, but the width is off by a lot?
Yes. Seller just agreed to a full refund.
Thank you Jimmy 🙏

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Re: LC check on a Wu Tang Raekwon Bay Club

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Phew, that's great. For the record, I checked in with a colleague who is more savvy in the rap tee genre than I am, and he also had his doubts, so better safe than sorry.
Jimmy J

(Please note: Legit checks I do in this forum should not be considered 100% conclusive; I'm simply giving a gut reaction based on the limited information provided.)

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