Champion t-shirts

Frank · Post by **Frank** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:36 pm

I personally collect vintage Champion gear, especially t-shirts. So, this is an all points bulletin for any help at all with Champion history! Champion was bought out by Hanes years ago and moved their production overseas. Their overall quality really took a considerable nosedive soon thereafter, surprise surprise. It seems like the bottom fell out of the Champion t-shirt market on eBay, which is fine with me because I've snapped up some beauties recently, but it doesn't help me much as a seller. Runner and blue bar tags don't produce the bidding wars that they used to.

It seems that most of the history of Champion has been lost, even in this age of readily avaiable nerdy fanboy info on the internet. I have contacted Champion several times about their corporate history, but I can't seem to find the right bureaucrat there or anywhere online to help me stitch together (pun intended) their history. Local (Rochester, NY area) historical societies have also been a bust. I'm thinking over travelling there to try to dig up more info, but at this point, this is more than a vacation.. it's a quest, a quest for fun.

Red cloud has some pretty helpful images of Champion tags.
http://www.redcloud.co.jp/top.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
of course, the site is in Japanese. Japan seems to have a glut of Champion fanatics.
Annnnnny help is most welcome!

Frank
bulldogvintage.blogspot.com

CRAZYBUBBA · Post by **CRAZYBUBBA** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:07 pm

I can echo your comment re: vintage. I'm having alot of trouble finding customers for wholesale vintage. It's even affected Japan!

Question: I know that Blue bar would denote 70s but from when to when were the "running man" tags produced?

Post by **jimmyj** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:10 pm

Nice info!

I've never been able to figure out the Champion blue bar situation - the football jersey's - one will be worth a few hundred and others won't sell for the opening bid. But all the runner versions seem to be no brainer, they always do well.

Redcloud is great - they have tons of images of old shirt and clothing brands. They also breakdown what decade they are from.

Their navigation is kinda weird though, there's no direct link - you have to go to "detail" on the left hand side.

http://www.redcloud.co.jp/top.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

river · Post by **river** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:45 pm

hi,

thanks for the info on the tags+etc.
i've come across few champion t-shirts yesterday at one of the local night market here.
js wondering, is it worth to collect them. Guess its circa 80s or 90s(maybe) production... ( but i cant see the 90s tag in the previous post)

appreciate any feedback
thanks

River

CRAZYBUBBA · Post by **CRAZYBUBBA** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:01 pm

THANK YOU. That's amazing.

Frank · Post by **Frank** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:09 pm

I have Google alerts, eBay alerts, and everything else alerts set to tell me when anything Champion sells on planet earth, but info is so incredibly spotty!

There used to be a Champion outlet store I believe in Rochester. I went there once and spent ever dollar I had- this was probably 16 years ago. I'm not sure if it's still open, but the number listed online is not in service. It was a factory outlet in every sense of the term, featuring basically every cancelled gym uniform order in the United States. I bought a 100 pound box of stuff for like $50 total. I wish i was there to dive their dumpsters on the day after their move to Haiti

hermosavtg · Post by **hermosavtg** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:02 pm

Hey I am confounded by Champion gear. A couple years ago I noticed how much champion tag athletic shirts were selling for on the bay and i went nuts searching for them. The only success i had was with an 80's University of Miami jersey t-shirt. Unfortunately its before i started keeping good records and photos of my items so i have not photos. That particular shirt was a bright kelly green with a big "M" in the middle, it was cool but nothing extreme or incredible. It sold for $77 to what i think was a Japanese bidding service. Since then all the champion tag shirts i've sold (mostly 80's tags) have sold for little more than opening bid. I guess it was mostly japanese collectors driving up the price.

Frank · Post by **Frank** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:19 pm

river wrote: is it worth to collect them.

I don't know if there's much of a market for Champion gear, I collect them because i really dig the quality and overall all-American feel of them. I just grew up on Champion gear.

bandito · Post by **bandito** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:15 pm

The Champion knitwear company inc. started in 1919,with the earliest running man tag I've seen dating to the 1930's.This is similar to the '40's tag,only the figure is black on white rather than white against black/blue.

CRAZYBUBBA · Post by **CRAZYBUBBA** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:10 pm

I had to rip the tag off of this one for use as a teaching tool in the factory but if you want the shirt it's yours for $20 shipped.

It's got discoloration but no holes or rips.

Frank · Post by **Frank** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:00 pm

sure, but can i have the tag to sew it back in?

Post by **jimmyj** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:28 pm

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....

say it aint so! You probably could have fetched $100-200 smackers for that...just print out the images of the labels in this forum and on our site...no vintage should ever be harmed in the process....

CRAZYBUBBA · Post by **CRAZYBUBBA** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:16 pm

Easy there tiger. It's just vintage clothing.

I find that original labels photocopy better and I'd like to hold on to the label for my personal collection.

Also, educating our staff is a priority over selling individual pieces for a $100. If my people are better educated they'll be able to pick up more of these things and make us alot more than $200.

I don't really have to patience to list things one by one on ebay. I don't know how you guys do it, waiting for a buyer can be frustrating.

Frank · Post by **Frank** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:02 pm

PS that shirt is from Gonzaga High School in Washington, DC, not Gonzaga University.

CRAZYBUBBA · Post by **CRAZYBUBBA** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:15 pm

Frank wrote:PS that shirt is from Gonzaga High School in Washington, DC, not Gonzaga University.

That makes sense since the rags came from the Baltimore area.

The question is: What kid wears an xl? It still fits like a large after 50 years.

Fatandyz · Post by **Fatandyz** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:38 am

Found a champion nylon jacket this week. Trying to date this tag. I haven't seen any comments on the black runner champion labels.

Post by **jimmyj** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:25 pm

can't seem to find one like it on redcloud - but they say all of the thin horizontal style ones are 60s.

lets see the rest of the jacket!

Fatandyz · Post by **Fatandyz** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:16 pm

nicotine · Post by **nicotine** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:49 pm

its 70's as far as i remember.

CRAZYBUBBA · Post by **CRAZYBUBBA** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:38 am

Yeah, I'd agree with nicotine's assessment based upon the collar.

While sometimes it's worthwhile to keep in mind that 70s collars were actually a revival of the 40s wingtip collars, I'm pretty sure that yours is a 70s issue, it looks like the material is nylon.

Fatandyz · Post by **Fatandyz** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:45 pm

Nylon...yes

tanyadye · Post by **tanyadye** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:18 am

I found this today and would value any info that you smart people could give me. i am having trouble downloading pics but have put them on the defunkd facebook page, it a gold sweatshirt. thanks!

Post by **jimmyj** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:40 pm

here are the photos - can you please post a link to the listing?

Post by **jimmyj** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:47 pm

seems to me like this is a steal:

http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-70s-LEHIGH- ... 0019178318

tanyadye · Post by **tanyadye** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:45 pm

here is the link to the auction for the champion sweatshirt
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :MESELX:IT

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